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kitetsu wrote:Maybe were-marines could just have a combination of lungs and gills or something.
But if that was so, i wonder what fish scales would feel like if it's dry.
That and imagine what it would be like to be a wereprawn. Going orange from too much heat, maybe? ;)
i guess you could say im a "were-Marine" semper fi
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more of an amphibian that a reptile at firstMotsiewolf wrote:Werefish with lungs and gills . . . possible. Well, anything is possible! With lungs and gills reminds me of the lungfish. That fish is weird looking
But if the fish is able to come on land and have dry scales, then wouldn't it be considered a reptile?
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*Moon Rises over Swampland*KittyRose wrote:Speaking of amphibians, how about a werefrog?
[Man in the Moonlight] "That's funny...suddenly I have this irresistible urge to eat flies, play the Banjo and start a Comedy troupe with a Bear, a Pig and a Weird Blue Bird-like thing."
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Hunh...If we limit the field to Were'-(please fill in the blank) we are stuck with things that could be built on the Human "chassis", which is limited in scope.
Let me ask, why would the Were' have to be a particular animal form? Why not a metamorph (which all were's are) that just uses the goodies from the shift and only hints at the other animal form?
That takes into Anthropometric Metamorphic creatures: a whole 'nother concept.
A Were' felid (cat) might have the teeth, the tail, the claws and some level of Furriness, but would be essentially a Fuzzy Humanoid--which all Werewolves were in the movies until the evolution of Latex and CGI.
A Were' Shark would have the Teeth, skin, and either a dolphin-like oxygenation system or a set of modified lungs that could act as gills. Hands and feet would mimic an Otter's more than a Shark's.
Problem there is salt...we have about half as much salt in our blood as seawater does: we'd dehydrate in a hurry just swimming around in the Ocean--and Fresh water would have us making yellow clouds in the water a lot, as fresh water fish do today.
My suspicion is that a Werewolf (Homo Sapiens Lupens, var. Brownriggi) would take some time to shift anda some tiume to revert; as in hours- simply because of the amount of template modification that would have to be done, and the shifted person would be very, very tired after a shift.
They'd probably stay in form for as long as possible, shifting only when necessary and only when there was a safe time and place to do so.
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Let me ask, why would the Were' have to be a particular animal form? Why not a metamorph (which all were's are) that just uses the goodies from the shift and only hints at the other animal form?
That takes into Anthropometric Metamorphic creatures: a whole 'nother concept.
A Were' felid (cat) might have the teeth, the tail, the claws and some level of Furriness, but would be essentially a Fuzzy Humanoid--which all Werewolves were in the movies until the evolution of Latex and CGI.
A Were' Shark would have the Teeth, skin, and either a dolphin-like oxygenation system or a set of modified lungs that could act as gills. Hands and feet would mimic an Otter's more than a Shark's.
Problem there is salt...we have about half as much salt in our blood as seawater does: we'd dehydrate in a hurry just swimming around in the Ocean--and Fresh water would have us making yellow clouds in the water a lot, as fresh water fish do today.
My suspicion is that a Werewolf (Homo Sapiens Lupens, var. Brownriggi) would take some time to shift anda some tiume to revert; as in hours- simply because of the amount of template modification that would have to be done, and the shifted person would be very, very tired after a shift.
They'd probably stay in form for as long as possible, shifting only when necessary and only when there was a safe time and place to do so.
My two bits...
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Okay, okay - I'm having a hard time with this. If there are so many were creatures out there, there would have been evidence of it by now.
I know, I know, but I'm still working on the Feeborn world. It's supposed to be an alternate reality, not a fantasy. I have to work from that direction.
Based on that world, we can't have every Tom, Dick and werefrog crowding the streets an restaurants. So give me your top 5 weres? Then you can go back to the eneral discussion?
I know, I know, but I'm still working on the Feeborn world. It's supposed to be an alternate reality, not a fantasy. I have to work from that direction.
Based on that world, we can't have every Tom, Dick and werefrog crowding the streets an restaurants. So give me your top 5 weres? Then you can go back to the eneral discussion?
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Re: IMHO...
Maybe it's just me, but i find this analogy to be made of fail and forced meme.RedEye wrote:Hunh...If we limit the field to Were'-(please fill in the blank) we are stuck with things that could be built on the Human "chassis", which is limited in scope.
Let me ask, why would the Were' have to be a particular animal form? Why not a metamorph (which all were's are) that just uses the goodies from the shift and only hints at the other animal form?
That takes into Anthropometric Metamorphic creatures: a whole 'nother concept.
A Were' felid (cat) might have the teeth, the tail, the claws and some level of Furriness, but would be essentially a Fuzzy Humanoid--which all Werewolves were in the movies until the evolution of Latex and CGI.
A Were' Shark would have the Teeth, skin, and either a dolphin-like oxygenation system or a set of modified lungs that could act as gills. Hands and feet would mimic an Otter's more than a Shark's.
Problem there is salt...we have about half as much salt in our blood as seawater does: we'd dehydrate in a hurry just swimming around in the Ocean--and Fresh water would have us making yellow clouds in the water a lot, as fresh water fish do today.
My suspicion is that a Werewolf (Homo Sapiens Lupens, var. Brownriggi) would take some time to shift anda some tiume to revert; as in hours- simply because of the amount of template modification that would have to be done, and the shifted person would be very, very tired after a shift.
They'd probably stay in form for as long as possible, shifting only when necessary and only when there was a safe time and place to do so.
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Five Were's
The request is for Five Were'forms. I'm going to stick to things that are reasonable, based on the Human body as the base (chassis).
1: Werewolf. Homo Sapiens Lupens; var, Brownriggi
2: Puman. Homo Sapiens Felis Concolor (Were Cougar or Puma)
3: Baasti. Homo Sapiens Felis Leo Africanus. (were-Lion, panther, etc.)
4: Ursinii. Homo Sapiens Ursus (Probably Brown Bear)
5: Selkie. Homo Sapiens Delphinus. (Warm Blooded, retains human appearance from waist up, while dolphin-like otherwise. Tends to fatness in either form.
I avoided things that wouldn't be supported by the Human frame in any way, such as Centaurs (Hexipods) Sharks or any fish (Blood form and frame incompatibility) Birds/Bats (we are just too heavy to fly under our own power)
All of my theoreticals have in common: Four limbs, Humanoid conformation, and a tail (which we do have, just small). I separate the Puman and Baasti because they are really different critters and just barely stay within Human weight limits. Baasti would probably be people of African descent. This is just an opinion, mind...
1: Werewolf. Homo Sapiens Lupens; var, Brownriggi
2: Puman. Homo Sapiens Felis Concolor (Were Cougar or Puma)
3: Baasti. Homo Sapiens Felis Leo Africanus. (were-Lion, panther, etc.)
4: Ursinii. Homo Sapiens Ursus (Probably Brown Bear)
5: Selkie. Homo Sapiens Delphinus. (Warm Blooded, retains human appearance from waist up, while dolphin-like otherwise. Tends to fatness in either form.
I avoided things that wouldn't be supported by the Human frame in any way, such as Centaurs (Hexipods) Sharks or any fish (Blood form and frame incompatibility) Birds/Bats (we are just too heavy to fly under our own power)
All of my theoreticals have in common: Four limbs, Humanoid conformation, and a tail (which we do have, just small). I separate the Puman and Baasti because they are really different critters and just barely stay within Human weight limits. Baasti would probably be people of African descent. This is just an opinion, mind...
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Re: Five Were's
Well, that's not good enough -- you're thinking too realistically.RedEye wrote:The request is for Five Were'forms. I'm going to stick to things that are reasonable, based on the Human body as the base (chassis).
1: Werewolf. Homo Sapiens Lupens; var, Brownriggi
2: Puman. Homo Sapiens Felis Concolor (Were Cougar or Puma)
3: Baasti. Homo Sapiens Felis Leo Africanus. (were-Lion, panther, etc.)
4: Ursinii. Homo Sapiens Ursus (Probably Brown Bear)
5: Selkie. Homo Sapiens Delphinus. (Warm Blooded, retains human appearance from waist up, while dolphin-like otherwise. Tends to fatness in either form.
I avoided things that wouldn't be supported by the Human frame in any way, such as Centaurs (Hexipods) Sharks or any fish (Blood form and frame incompatibility) Birds/Bats (we are just too heavy to fly under our own power)
All of my theoreticals have in common: Four limbs, Humanoid conformation, and a tail (which we do have, just small). I separate the Puman and Baasti because they are really different critters and just barely stay within Human weight limits. Baasti would probably be people of African descent. This is just an opinion, mind...
For one thing, what if werebirds can fly short distances like chickens do? It doesn't matter if not being able to soar higher than an F-22 Raptor as a werefalcon doesn't make it a true werefalcon. Functionality is much more important than purity, y'know? There might even be, i dunno, "organic aerodynamics" technology that modifies the wings to let werebirds fly much further even with short wings.
And werefish/sharks. Like i said, they can breathe air and dive underwater. The worst case scenario would be that these folks would die from severe dehydration 1/3 quicker than normal humans for all i care. Why not give them surgery to make them hydrated for longer periods? What if, as mischievous mother nature is with her ecosystem and even the human anatomy alone, that there is a unique marine lycanthrope that has an abnormally high levels of hydration inside the body?
The bottom line is, lycanthropes, regardless of type are half-half beings that can change back and forth, and has their own set of disadvantages. Just remember, don't go and say "no, that's impossible" just cos one type has odds stacked 238946837458947584 times higher than the universally-favored wolf type.
Because this is what happens when you apply too much realism.
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Uhhh- Lycanthropes are Werewolves exclusively. Lycos-Wolf Anthrope- manlike.
The word you are probably after is either Metamorph, Meta-anthropes or
Polyanthropes.
Either way, you're stuck with what is available in the base form- the Human frame. Unless that Human frame is made completely metamorphic, like the Jello-Werewolves in some of the Werewolf movies.
The human frame is a rather useful thing though, given what its posessors have accomplished.
ANyhow, Silver was asking for our top five were's, so I gave her mine. Give her yours, too.
The word you are probably after is either Metamorph, Meta-anthropes or
Polyanthropes.
Either way, you're stuck with what is available in the base form- the Human frame. Unless that Human frame is made completely metamorphic, like the Jello-Werewolves in some of the Werewolf movies.
The human frame is a rather useful thing though, given what its posessors have accomplished.
ANyhow, Silver was asking for our top five were's, so I gave her mine. Give her yours, too.
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I think Silver has forgotten that the forum has an entirely seperate section for discussions concerning Freeborn specifically.Silver wrote:Okay, okay - I'm having a hard time with this. If there are so many were creatures out there, there would have been evidence of it by now.
I know, I know, but I'm still working on the Feeborn world. It's supposed to be an alternate reality, not a fantasy. I have to work from that direction.
Based on that world, we can't have every Tom, Dick and werefrog crowding the streets an restaurants. So give me your top 5 weres? Then you can go back to the eneral discussion?
Since this thread does not specify any guidelines within which respones must fall, then I think answers in the category of "fantasy" are perfectly relevant to this discussion.
On Freeborn, I have been under the impression that in the storyverse of the film, there are only werewolves for sure, and not likely any, or many other such creatures.
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Didn't there used to be a "Silvers Corner" section? ...all I can find is the "Replies to Silvers Corner" section.
Anyway...Silver...if you would like to spinoff this discussion for the purposes of fleshing out the Expanded Freeborn Universe, I strongly suggest starting a new thread in the section with your name on it...created just for you...for that very purpose...
...ditto with the "Body Parts" thread.
If you are interested in hearing what we have to say in regards to just what is applicable to "Freeborn", I strongly suggest starting new subjects in the appropriate aria.
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Anyway...Silver...if you would like to spinoff this discussion for the purposes of fleshing out the Expanded Freeborn Universe, I strongly suggest starting a new thread in the section with your name on it...created just for you...for that very purpose...
...ditto with the "Body Parts" thread.
This is not the place to tell us which ideas are right or which are wrong. Nothing has been "DECIDED" in this section. The discussions here are open to free creative expression.Silver wrote:I've read the opinions on this thread, and there's something that needs to be remembered. It was decided a while back that the transformation was not magic, but a virus that mutated the DNA. So magic doesn't enter into the equasion here.
It seems that if you take the magic out, the majority of the opinion is that a severed limb would remain as it was before it was severed.
So, do I have it right? if a piece of the WW body (transformed) is removed, it will most probably stay as is. If it is partially removed, it might try to change back, slowing down as the body died.
That sound correct?
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Here it is.Vuldari wrote:Didn't there used to be a "Silvers Corner" section? ...all I can find is the "Replies to Silvers Corner" section.
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