wierd idea... probibly been done...

Timber-WoIf · Post by **Timber-WoIf** » Wed Apr 19, 2006 7:18 pm

I was bored and thinking about -sigh- videogames...
anyway, i was thinkn bout Halo, then thinkin bout the rines made me think of starcraft. Then i was thinkin how a fight between Master Chief and Kerrigan would play out. Then i thought about Samus vs Master Chief. Then i thought about Aidan Pryde and a lance of BattleMechs tearing up some Gundams. Then i realized a squad of ghosts could pwn both by locking them down. and my train of thought continued to deteriorate...

Eventually, i was like "hey, it'd be kinda neat to have something like this play out. Like, if you had a tourny between all sorts of charicters and teams from all sorts of games, movies, and books.

like i was said, i was bored, so i started thinkin bout how that could actually be done interestingly...
I figured that there were two avinues to persue with this:
- a tourny type thing where contestants were nominated, bracketed up, then voted on.
- a sort of series of written encounters. Just imagine and describe the battle, perhaps have the winner voted on, perhaps authors preference...

the first idea would be easiest to do, but wouldn't be too interesting, with just results. The second would be much more interesting, especially if the matches were voted on, but would be significantly more difficult to pull off. Espicially if writers had to research the charicters in the match.

either way, contestants would have to be submitted, and the good and bad charicters would have to be filtered out based on people's best judgement... the contestants accepted would then have to be bracketed up... (probibly sorted into large brackets by catagory (gundams and battlemechs in one, Master Chief and Samus in another, Sweet tooth and Nightrider in another...) Also it would be cool to have squad matches between the lesser charicters. (Like Sgt. Johnson + Marines vs., um, err... i dunno, Ash Ketch'em and Pikachu + friends)

I suppose it was kinda inspired by this band competition a local radio station had where bands were paired up and listeners voted on which on they thought was better, and that celebrity deathmatch show. And that Nentendo game that had all the Nentendo charicters beating the crap outta eachother (smash bros?)

alas... i think this has already been done. And its kinda dumb. Well, silly. anyways... thoughts?

forsaken_wolf · Post by **forsaken_wolf** » Thu Apr 20, 2006 5:53 am

Now you made me think it about, it would be kinda cool to see them fight with all sorts of characters of what you said just like super smash bros. style, except better and all that. So those are my thoughts about it.

Kzinistzerg · Post by **Kzinistzerg** » Thu Apr 20, 2006 7:18 pm

Yes, but...

Phelan Kell Ward+ Binary of omnimechs kicks butt! Hell, even a Star...

Don't forget Elementals.

You know, i do wonder how well a squad of 'mechs would hold up against a swarm of say, zerglings. i mean, these things are huge. the only prpblem i see is that they're not equipped or small targets. And their joints are vunerable. They could take out the ultralisks, though... (gauss guns, UAC, PPC, fun!)

i guess machine guns and flame-thowers on a couple of locusts and kitfoxes would do well... pulse lasers, too.

Timber-WoIf · Post by **Timber-WoIf** » Thu Apr 20, 2006 7:25 pm

there are a few mechs designed for that kind of job... I know the inner sphere has the Firestarter, claners have the Myst Lynx... The clans also developed some urban-style varients of some of their more common omnimechs. I believe they are all S varients... and most pack lots of small arms and short-range weapons.

but, those mechs are unpopular, which means the chances of a lance/star having any are very slim.

i will probibly be exploring this idea some more...

Kzinistzerg · Post by **Kzinistzerg** » Thu Apr 20, 2006 7:39 pm

Yeah. That's the problem with mechs vs. zerg, is that they're geared for big game.

Hey, wait a second. howsabout special SRM's with warheads of biotoxins, rather than explosives? Like, Plague?

I think it has indeedie been done. but hey, it's still fun to talk about mechs.

Timber-WoIf · Post by **Timber-WoIf** » Fri Apr 21, 2006 4:52 am

well... i know there are Inferno SRMs, which might help - but the clans don't like 'em.

Machine-Whisperer · Post by **Machine-Whisperer** » Fri Apr 21, 2006 11:02 am

Battlemech = Weak vs Artillary, Airstrikes and tactical weaponry (ie: Cruise missiles). They're kinda like high mobility Tanks.

Zerg = Weak vs Heavy armour, Robotic, Airial support and most anti infantry weapons.

The mechs will need to be accompanied by light tanks and possibly helicopters, to be effective against a zergling rush.
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Try sticking Space marines and StormTroopers together.

Hearth · Post by **Hearth** » Fri Apr 21, 2006 12:24 pm

Blah. Artemis Entreri and Jarlaxle would beat 'em all.

Timber-WoIf · Post by **Timber-WoIf** » Fri Apr 21, 2006 2:50 pm

Machine-Whisperer wrote:Try sticking Space marines and StormTroopers together.

Space Marines? Which ones? Warhammer 40k? DoomTrooper? Starcraft?

Either way, Starwars = Overblown. Although... It would be kinda neat to see a phycic/force matchup... Yuri vs Vader....

...As for the zerglings, so long as they don't get caught in the open, Battlemechs would have a really hard time. The only way a strait Mech lance or star would dominate is if it was made up of light mechs armed with anti infantry weapons. Especially suited are:

Firestarter(IS) 35tons, somewhere around 95 kph, jump-jets, two medium beam lasers (RT,LT) and 3 flamers (LA,CT,RA), as well as decent armor for its class.
Flea(IS) 20 tons, about 95kph, jump jets, a small pulse and medium beam on each arm, and a flamethower to top it off. one of the smallest and cheapest mechs out there, but it's cooling isn't the best, and it isn't well armored at all.
Koshi A Myst Lynx(Clan) 25 tons, over 100kph (not really sure, just know that its fast), agile, and armed with a flamer plus a slew of machineguns. The Myst Lynx Inner Sphere name means "Small Death"; it was dubbed so because of it's devistating effictiveness against IS infantry and light armored units. If any mech could defeat a zergling rush, this would be the one.

The clans would have to use mechs, mostly because thats the only type of unit they really have. Aerospace fighters wouldn't do much. (no amount of wraith ever did anything to stop a hundred pissed lings). Thier infantry is poorly equiped, and infantry is only used to die - thats it, 100% cannon fodder. You'd think elementals would do better, but their more like anti-mech commandos. They're equiped to take out big things, just like mechs, and thiey are organized in stars, just like mechs. If 5 mechs couldn't win, 5 elemintals wouldn't stand a chance.

The Inner Sphere, on the other hand, doesn't have their unit tactics all discombobulated. Their infantry are trained and equipped to win in thier role, and, if given time to fortify, a formation of infantry would probibly win at a fraction of the cost it would have taken mechs. Not to mention the vast array of hovercraft, tanks, and VTOLs that would see the job done well.

Some infantry platoons are actually trained to swarm mechs. They actually climb aboard the moving mech like ants and bring it down hard. If plain-ol' infantry whit just rifles and satchels can do that, then a hoard of lings can sure as heck can do it too.[/i]

Kzinistzerg · Post by **Kzinistzerg** » Fri Apr 21, 2006 7:54 pm

Yeah, but satchel charges are explosive.

But, elementals are done in stars too, but...

a Star of Omnimechs is 5 mechs, a Star of Elementals is 25 elementals.

A mixed light-mech/elemental trinary could take down a bunch of zerg, m,ethinks.

The in-game stats for the flea/locust say it can get to 141 kph. dunno how accurate that is to the battletech canon, though.

Machine-Whisperer · Post by **Machine-Whisperer** » Sat Apr 22, 2006 4:32 am

anyone here think that Warcraft is based off warhammer40k ( or vice versa ) ?

Timber-WoIf · Post by **Timber-WoIf** » Mon Apr 24, 2006 2:06 pm

Isnt warcraft in the fantasy past, while warhammer40k is in the sci-fi future?

As fot the zerglings, i know exactly who to call... the Brotherhood of Nod! With thier array of flame and chemical weapons, what would be the problem? (Though the Devils Tongue is too weak, even though it can burrow. I liked the original flame tank alot better...)

What i'd really like to see Battlemechs stomp the crap out of is those friggin flashy Gundam things. They're a sad, unrealistic excuse for a war machine. They're painted in bright colors, and are way to friggin flashy. And those MT things they kill are sadder, but at least they look the part. A lance of IS tanks could take care of the MTs. As for the Gundams... Let a lance of Atlas show 'em what a war machine really is.

Kzinistzerg · Post by **Kzinistzerg** » Tue Apr 25, 2006 8:07 pm

Nonono, star of Dire Wolves/Daishi.. Hell any hundred-ton 'mech kicks butt!

-Kodiak, Daishi/Timberwolf, King Crab, Atlas, Fafnir... The list goes on!

Machine-Whisperer · Post by **Machine-Whisperer** » Wed Apr 26, 2006 10:30 am

But. not if they're bombarded by Starships.... the homeworld series comes to mind.

As for the Brotherhood of Nod.
hmmm. would the brotherhood of Steel be a worthey apponent?

....ya. I know. I'm just randomly throwing in Ideas,

Kzinistzerg · Post by **Kzinistzerg** » Wed Apr 26, 2006 2:25 pm

True. But tehn again...